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nathandunn
I think these are great.  Do you think, in addition, having standard gitter channels underneath GMOD might also make sense?    

Not sure if that is overkill or not. 

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   1. Re: All GMOD mail lists should be migrated from sourceforge
      (Todd Harris)
   2. Re: All GMOD mail lists should be migrated from sourceforge
      (Scott Cain)
   3. Re: All GMOD mail lists should be migrated from sourceforge
      (Scott Cain)


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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2017 11:28:40 -0600
From: Todd Harris <[hidden email]>
To: Chris Mungall <[hidden email]>
Cc: gmod-devel list <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [GMOD-devel] All GMOD mail lists should be migrated from
        sourceforge
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Agreed. I saw then ignored that email from SF.

Google Groups can be a little finicky sometimes but generally works well for most users.

If we want to corral lists under the gmod.org domain, someone would need to petition Google for a G Suite for Education account.  That might be more overhead than is necessary to just get some core lists up and running before the end of the month.

Todd

> On Jun 19, 2017, at 2:51 PM, Chris Mungall <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> I think it's time to ditch sourceforge altogether.
>
> Of course, we ditched them some time ago as a hosted VCS and ticket system, moving to github, but we left the mail lists in place. Now it's time to move these too:
>
>       ? Recently I got an email from sourceforge asking me to confirm I wanted to remain on all sf mailing lists (non-confirmation resulting in automatic unsubscription within the month). It looked a bit phishy and I suspect many people will either not click or will not see the email, and will silently drop off the lists.
>       ? it is now no longer possible for list admins to manage members!
>       ? more spam seems to have been getting through
> Unless anyone has a better suggestion, it seems like migrating to google groups is the best solution. This is what we're doing with the OBO lists: https://github.com/OBOFoundry/OBOFoundry.github.io/issues/435
>
> This may be a good time to do some spring cleaning, consolidate some groups, formally abandon some others. And perhaps we can breathe some life into some existing ones? gmod-architecture seems to get no love - yet this is at a time when the model organism databases are consolidating their architecture and community discussions would be most welcome!
>
> Here is the list of lists on SF:
>
> <PastedImage.png>
>
> A lot of these are either dead or were never really alive
>
> A curated list of GMOD lists:
> http://gmod.org/wiki/GMOD_Mailing_Lists
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Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2017 13:37:20 -0400
From: Scott Cain <[hidden email]>
To: Todd Harris <[hidden email]>
Cc: Chris Mungall <[hidden email]>,  gmod-devel list
        <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [GMOD-devel] All GMOD mail lists should be migrated from
        sourceforge
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Ah, I hadn't even thought about the idea of going the G suite for education
route.  I'll make a few queries about it, since I would really rather have
the "gmod.org" branding on whatever we migrate to.

On Wed, Jul 5, 2017 at 1:28 PM, Todd Harris <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Agreed. I saw then ignored that email from SF.
>
> Google Groups can be a little finicky sometimes but generally works well
> for most users.
>
> If we want to corral lists under the gmod.org domain, someone would need
> to petition Google for a G Suite for Education account.  That might be more
> overhead than is necessary to just get some core lists up and running
> before the end of the month.
>
> Todd
>
> > On Jun 19, 2017, at 2:51 PM, Chris Mungall <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >
> > I think it's time to ditch sourceforge altogether.
> >
> > Of course, we ditched them some time ago as a hosted VCS and ticket
> system, moving to github, but we left the mail lists in place. Now it's
> time to move these too:
> >
> >       ? Recently I got an email from sourceforge asking me to confirm I
> wanted to remain on all sf mailing lists (non-confirmation resulting in
> automatic unsubscription within the month). It looked a bit phishy and I
> suspect many people will either not click or will not see the email, and
> will silently drop off the lists.
> >       ? it is now no longer possible for list admins to manage members!
> >       ? more spam seems to have been getting through
> > Unless anyone has a better suggestion, it seems like migrating to google
> groups is the best solution. This is what we're doing with the OBO lists:
> https://github.com/OBOFoundry/OBOFoundry.github.io/issues/435
> >
> > This may be a good time to do some spring cleaning, consolidate some
> groups, formally abandon some others. And perhaps we can breathe some life
> into some existing ones? gmod-architecture seems to get no love - yet this
> is at a time when the model organism databases are consolidating their
> architecture and community discussions would be most welcome!
> >
> > Here is the list of lists on SF:
> >
> > <PastedImage.png>
> >
> > A lot of these are either dead or were never really alive
> >
> > A curated list of GMOD lists:
> > http://gmod.org/wiki/GMOD_Mailing_Lists
> >
> > ------------------------------------------------------------
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> > engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot______
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Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2017 13:46:27 -0400
From: Scott Cain <[hidden email]>
To: Todd Harris <[hidden email]>
Cc: Chris Mungall <[hidden email]>,  gmod-devel list
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Subject: Re: [GMOD-devel] All GMOD mail lists should be migrated from
        sourceforge
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OH! I totally forgot about this: gmod.org already has a free google apps
account from before they started charging for it.  I suspect that's all we
needed to make groups under the gmod.org domain.

On Wed, Jul 5, 2017 at 1:37 PM, Scott Cain <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Ah, I hadn't even thought about the idea of going the G suite for
> education route.  I'll make a few queries about it, since I would really
> rather have the "gmod.org" branding on whatever we migrate to.
>
> On Wed, Jul 5, 2017 at 1:28 PM, Todd Harris <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> Agreed. I saw then ignored that email from SF.
>>
>> Google Groups can be a little finicky sometimes but generally works well
>> for most users.
>>
>> If we want to corral lists under the gmod.org domain, someone would need
>> to petition Google for a G Suite for Education account.  That might be more
>> overhead than is necessary to just get some core lists up and running
>> before the end of the month.
>>
>> Todd
>>
>> > On Jun 19, 2017, at 2:51 PM, Chris Mungall <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> >
>> > I think it's time to ditch sourceforge altogether.
>> >
>> > Of course, we ditched them some time ago as a hosted VCS and ticket
>> system, moving to github, but we left the mail lists in place. Now it's
>> time to move these too:
>> >
>> >       ? Recently I got an email from sourceforge asking me to confirm I
>> wanted to remain on all sf mailing lists (non-confirmation resulting in
>> automatic unsubscription within the month). It looked a bit phishy and I
>> suspect many people will either not click or will not see the email, and
>> will silently drop off the lists.
>> >       ? it is now no longer possible for list admins to manage members!
>> >       ? more spam seems to have been getting through
>> > Unless anyone has a better suggestion, it seems like migrating to
>> google groups is the best solution. This is what we're doing with the OBO
>> lists: https://github.com/OBOFoundry/OBOFoundry.github.io/issues/435
>> >
>> > This may be a good time to do some spring cleaning, consolidate some
>> groups, formally abandon some others. And perhaps we can breathe some life
>> into some existing ones? gmod-architecture seems to get no love - yet this
>> is at a time when the model organism databases are consolidating their
>> architecture and community discussions would be most welcome!
>> >
>> > Here is the list of lists on SF:
>> >
>> > <PastedImage.png>
>> >
>> > A lot of these are either dead or were never really alive
>> >
>> > A curated list of GMOD lists:
>> > http://gmod.org/wiki/GMOD_Mailing_Lists
>> >
>> > ------------------------------------------------------------
>> ------------------
>> > Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most
>> > engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot______
>> _________________________________________
>> > Gmod-devel mailing list
>> > [hidden email]
>> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gmod-devel
>>
>>
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>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gmod-devel
>>
>
>
>
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> dot net
> GMOD Coordinator (http://gmod.org/)                     <a href="tel:216-392-3087" value="+12163923087">216-392-3087
> <(216)%20392-3087>
> Ontario Institute for Cancer Research
>



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